The interview with McLaren went well. Too tired to do a long summary.

The highlight for me (other than McLaren's references to Restoration history) happened early in the conversation. When I asked him what he meant by the statement, "Eschatology always wins" (a question I got from my good friend Lee Camp's interview of McLaren on the site for his new exciting integration of theology, literature, and music, Tokens)?

His response was simple.

"If you think your house is going to burn down the next day, you are not going to be motivated to clean up your room."

What if the house isn't going to burn down? The question you ask almost always determines the answer you conjure.